There is a phrase I hear used frequently in Christian circles that confuses me. I really started chewing on this a few nights ago when I was reading some blogs about a separate subject that I was curious about. I was moving from blog to blog and stumbled upon this phrase over and over again. There was one blog in particular in which a worship leader asked a question about a lyric change at a conference where he was going to be speaking and leading worship. He made the statement, “My primary role as a worship leader is to lead people into the presence of God.” I’ve heard the statement a lot before so I did a Google search and found that there have been books written about how to, “lead people into the presence of God,” and that worship leaders everywhere count this as a part of their responsibility and giftedness in worship. I believe that this is misguided, and also gives some really faulty ideas about the role of a worship leader and the person of God. Perhaps they are trying to say something else and are just wording it poorly. I know that I have been in that boat a ton of times. Or perhaps there lies a deeper issue. Maybe worship as a whole in our culture has been confused for something that it is not. Maybe we have elevated the role of the worship leader into something that it was never meant to be. These are questions that need to be discussed.

I have two main objections to this idea of leading people into the presence of God that I want to put forward for thought and discussion. The first has to do with the role of the worship leader. To say that we as worship leaders lead people into God’s presence is to assume that this is a role for people within the church. This is a dangerous position to be in. Access to God is granted through Christ alone, and at no point in the New Testament is there an idea that it would take a believer to lead another believer into God’s presence. Actually the opposite is true. 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us, “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (ESV).” In the Old Testament there was a mediator for the people in the form of a priest. In the New Covenant there is no longer a need for this role. Christ himself is now the mediator between God and mankind. Romans 5:2 speaking of Christ says, “Through him we have also obtained access by faith.” To say that it is possible for any person to now assume any part of this role reserved exclusively for Christ is in opposition to what the Scriptures say. It is no persons role to lead anyone into the presence of God except for Jesus Christ himself.

The second objection I have to this phrase is what it says about the nature of God. To state that we are to lead a person somewhere is also to say that this must be a place that the person is not at already. In other words if I were to lead you to my house I must assume that you are not currently at my house. This can never be true when we are speaking of God. To exist as a human being is to always be in His presence. There is never a moment for any of us that we are not in His presence. Jeremiah 23:24 says, “Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord.” And along those same lines we read in Psalm 139, “Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?” God is everywhere at all times. In theological terms we call this the idea of God’s omnipresence. This is just a big fancy way of saying that you can’t be anywhere that God is not. If this is true then it would be really confusing to some people to hear another human being offer to lead them into the presence of God, as if they have some mysterious inside information that no one else has. One of the main comforts of Scripture is that God is always with us and that we don’t have to figure out where He might have snuck off to. If you are reading this now, know that God is right there with you, and there will never be a need for you to have a worship leader tell you where to find Him.

So if this is the case then we need to get rid of this phrase and all the confusing connotations it brings along with it. I would like to offer an alternative to this idea. It is not the main job, or any part of the job, of a worship leader to lead people into the presence of God, rather it is to reveal to a congregation the nature and character of God, so that the congregation can respond to God in a meaningful way. The response or reaction to God revealed is the worship. This is important for a couple of reasons. First it demands that worship leaders have an adequate understanding of doctrine and theology. There are far to many people “leading worship” today that are neglecting the study of God’s word. If we as worship leaders are not equipped to reveal the person of God as outlined in the Bible then we are in no way qualified to lead the people of God in worship. This is a huge reminder to me even as I type this that my responsibility in worship first lies in the study of God’s word and not in becoming a better musician. One of the main questions I get asked on the road is, “how do I do what you do,” meaning how do I become a worship leader. My number one answer is to get into the word of God big time. If your desire to become a worship leader and lack a strong pull to study the word of God, then it might be good to question your motives for stepping into this role.

Second we need to understand how God himself says that He is revealed. One great place to see this is in Psalm 19. The first part of the Psalm is devoted to telling us how nature itself reveals tons of things about God for us to worship. God is the greatest worship leader around. He puts on a show daily for us to see and respond to in the form of sunsets and sunrises, stars, and the oceans. As I am writing this there are birds in my front yard hopping around looking for food, and this little show speak to the creativity and tender care of the Father. Psalm 8 is another great place to look. The second part of Psalm 19 tells us that God is found in the study of His word. Psalm 119 shares this idea when it says, “Your word is a lamp to my feet, and a light to my path.” The main place God reveals Himself to the world is right there in your Bible. The job of the worship leader and anyone in leadership among a body of believers is to point people to what the Scriptures say about God and to help people understand what they are telling us. It is an impossibility for this to happen if the leadership does not know what the Scriptures say in the first place. I am scared by some of our modern worship culture. I hear a lot of people leaving rooms after worship throwing around words like energy and anointed, but I am not sure we even know what we are saying. So many times I have heard someone say that a service was powerful, but if you ask them what they learned about God they just kind of look at you. “Well I learned that He loves me,” they might say, and I would say back, “What does that mean? What does God’s love look like?” We might cry and feel some energy, but apart from the Word of God we won’t have a clue about who God actually is, and that can never truly be worship.

So there are my thoughts about the phrase, “leading people into God’s presence.” Some will say I’m overreacting because that’s not what people mean. I’m a big fan of mean what you say and say what you mean. Language is one of the main tools we have to communicate the gospel, and if we mess that up we are on shaky ground indeed. Let me know what you think.

9 Responses to “Thoughts On A Commonly Used Phrase”

  1. Chuck,

    one of the benefits of your website/blog combo is that when you eventually post something on here, that it is said with much thought and research. i concur with your textual and contextual writings. i was stuck by your writings on “the nature of God” mostly because I have been thinking a great deal lately about how God reveals Himself to me. and to be honest, most of the time it is not within “the walls”.

    thanks for your thoughtful writing.

  2. babs said

    Chuck,

    Well said, and a very good catch. I agree with Adam and would like to reiterate what you’ve summed up so eloquently in the past: Worship is a Reaction.

    Thanks for your faithfulness & service, it has impacted my own walk greatly.

  3. Robb said

    Very well said. I also often hear folks talk as if worship is an act of conjuring the Holy Spirit and that you can tell that He has “arrived” when the goose bumps begin. That makes me very nervous because as someone who as worked in “show business” for quite a while, I am quite sensitive to how emotion can be swayed, manipulated and directed with key changes, tone of voice or effective lighting. One need look no further than a pop concert to see how unreliable emotional is as a gauge of the presence of the Holy Spirit.

  4. Very nice post Chuck…

    I would add one detail to the omnipresence of God, and it has to do with communion with God. Worship is a response to who God is and what He’s done, and the presence of God is only open to those who have confessed Jesus as Lord. Sinners with unregenerated hearts cannot enter the presence of God, because it is only promised to believers through the finished work of Christ, and applied by the Holy Spirit. Your wording (although I’m totally positive you didn’t mean it, borders on universalism) kind of left that open.

    I am so thrilled that someone is on the road with solid doctrine and theology… leading young guys who want to be worship leaders in the right direction. Praying for your ministry from a far!

    Much Love, Dustin

    • hootencrew said

      What up Dustin? I see what you are saying but I disagree. God’s presence is everywhere at all times among all people. David in Psalm 139 says even if He descended into hell even there He would not escape the presence of God. The issue is rather a person is under the grace of God or under the wrath of God. In Romans 1 the Bible tells us that all people are without excuse because His presence has been made known to all mankind through creation. Universalism would say that all people will eventually make it in to heaven, nullifying the Cross. The cross is our means of grace that gives us access to the love, care, and riches of God’s kingdom. Apart from the cross mankind stands condemned and square within the wrath of God, but even to be in God’s wrath is to be in His presence. Hope this clears up what I was saying.

      • Yeah bro, I think we’re saying the same thing in two different ways.

        My first read of your post was not a very detailed one. It seemed to me that you were connecting the rightful worship of God and being in the presence of God… which anyone could take part in, because He is everywhere. So, I thought you were saying all can rightly worship in the presence of God, even if they are unregenerate.

        He is omnipotent… absolutley.

        You said it well, when you clarified being under wrath or grace. Rightful worship of God, connected with the presence of God can only happen through the cross, by a Spirit filled heart.

        You said,

        “To exist as a human being is to always be in His presence. There is never a moment for any of us that we are not in His presence.”

        I thought you were connecting that with true worship of God… without the cross. A careful second reading of the post through the lens of your response totally cleared it up for me.

        So, thanks!

        Stay in touch bro…

    • hootencrew said

      Thanks again for the words! We miss you down here in Bham. Come down again soon and you, Troy and myself can go hit the links again. Holla

  5. Andy Byers said

    That phrase has recently sounded a bit out of sorts on my ears of late as well… so glad to hear such a clear explanation as to why! Good, good stuff, my friend….

    ~Andy

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